programming language \ifincsname Oldenburg notes combining penalties full typography in hmode expansion control \expanded \expandlater <number> reconsider paragraph name reference points Page building work by Matthias Clasen discretionaries after - real registers grid typesetting already existing ideas and approaches Thanh's approach issue: happens at \shipout which is probably too late comments by Hans H. comments by Morten xor approach alternative approach working along what do people want? do we need sub-grids? grid setting a \vbox natural \vbox TeX program involved is ยง688 vpackage \vbox to ... question: how to define "best solution"? questions: where does the grid start? how is the grid data structure defined? grid setting on the MVL some initial comments/ideas a later approach other topics discussed reconsider paragraph unjustified paragraphs \everyleftline topics not discussed fonts opentype support color A color stack for pdftex or maybe a whole different concept tying it to fonts? hyphenation work by Matthias Clasen math typesetting work by Matthias Clasen removing math values from tfms superglue notes summary of results new implemented primitive priority sorting Oldenburg notes algorithms for grid typesetting mixed results